| Black Amateur Telescope Making Materials | |
White silicone sealant/adhesive/filler Clear silicone sealant/adhesive/filler Black silicone II Sealant/adhesive/filler. |
I
have always had trouble with
the silicone I purchase. I would
open a bottle or tube and use a little and close it up. The next
time I would go to use it, the tube would be plugged. Sometimes I
could break the plug and get useful material out. Sometimes
not. I have been trying to find bottles that I could repack
silicones into that would properly store it. The best I have
found is glass. A glass wide mouth bottle allows me to dip in
with a toothpick or spatula and get a little out, then reclose the
bottle. That works until I get down to a mostly empty bottle,
then it begins to form a skin that has to be broken up.
Even so, it is far better than the plastic tubes. I have begun
packaging 2 oz bottles of silicone for sale in 2 oz glass widemouth
bottles. Each bottle costs $5+$2 shipping and handling. We have black, white and clear silicone available Indoor/Outdoor, permanently flexible, watertight. This stuff is so useful. You can cover screws, fill small spaces and absorb light. It forms a permanently flexible material tough enough to stay were it should be, but can be removed if needed. Great for small jobs. Approximately 2.0 oz $5 + $2 shipping in the US. Note, it is not paintable, tack free in 30 minutes; cures in 24 hours. Adhesion to: wood, metal, masonry, glass, vinyl siding, drywall, plaster, plastic |
| Black velvet paper flocking (not
self-adhesive) Picture of flocking installed on 6" OTA. Note that a white dot is opposite the focuser to help determine the center of the focuser and the screws holding the focuser have not yet been painted flat black.
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![]() ![]() 27" wide, $1 /lineal foot +$6 shipping (Select the number of units (feet) you want) 6"x6" patch for opposite your focuser ($1 shipped) 9"x12 patch for larger scopes $2 (shipped) |
| DCS
has available 27" wide
flocked paper black velvet which is and
excellent light absorber. It is suitable for lining telescope tubes and
eyepiece tubes and any other surface that to eliminate reflections. Unlike other black velvet available this material is not adhesive backed. One can spread the adhesive, put the flocking on it and move it into the exact desired position before it dries. (you should test the adhesive you use with the tube material before doing the main job). I have personally had trouble with the peel off backing stickinq to the wrong spot while I attempt to move them into place. |
Advantages: Excellent Light absorber
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Flat black self adhesive foam sheet (left) 9"x12" peel off back self adhesive sheet $1/sheet +$1 shipping It is 2mm thick. |
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felt for relining tube rings Flat black felt material 36" long, 2mm thick, purchase by the lineal inch at $0.50/inch. This material is suitable for lining telescope rings and will provide suitable friction to hold an OTA in place. $1.00 must be added for shipping of any amount. |
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Flat Black brushing enamel. This paint is a fine grain pigment enamel, meaning that it will flow smoothly to give your cameras a beautiful finish. In a 1 fluid ounce bottle. This can be used for retouching cameras, touching up bolts or other spots inside your OTA that need a non-reflective paint. In my use I have found that this gives a very flat finish in one coat on paper/cardboard etc. A slightly glossy effect is seen on a very shiny bolt that is painted. If the bolt is roughed up a little with fine sandpaper first, that effect goes away.. The one ounce bottle is an convenient way to have a bit of paint around when you need it for touch up. Warning: this is flammable when applied. $5 + $2 shipping. |
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| Adhesive hints: For metal and non porous (waxed sonotube), I find that Weldwood Contact cement works well for me, and remains flexible over time. Be sure to do your own testing on whatever tube material you are using to be sure that this will work well for you. DCS cannot be responsible for the decisions you make. Weldwood Contact cement is available at Ace Hardware for about $4 for a 3 oz bottle or less than $10 for a 32 oz can. I usually keep a bottle with brush on hand, and refill from a can. BE WARNED: this stuff is flammable and noxious. Use with good ventilation and be able to give it a few hours to dry some place where you don't have to smell it. It has toluene in it along with other solvents that can seriously hurt you. |
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| Testing hints: So It depends on what the tube is made of. It the tube is paper or cardboard(porous like the flocking) I would recommend doing a small test gluing to be sure: 1) it sticks well 2) the glue can be applied thinly enough so it doesn't come through the flocking in gobs and dry that way, 3) your choice stands up to dew. I take the glued test and apply moisture to it (say with a cool humidier or little spritzer bottle) to see how it reacts to dew. I have put sample strips glued with Elmer's and Weldwood into a closed container with a tray of water and they held up for weeks in the high humidity. Elmer's white glue did not remain flexible after drying, but it did hold quite well in all the tests. |
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Application
Strategy for newtonians: The way I find it easiest to install the flocking follows. This is by no means the only possible or best possible way, just the way I usually use. First I measure the length and diameter of the tube to be done. I then measure how far up the tube the front surface of the main mirror is. (I calculate things so that the flocking extends past this point but not to where the screws hold the mirror in place. The effective tube length is therefore the total tube length - the part I don't cover. I then calculate the inside circumference of the tube (2*pi*radius or pi * diameter) I will cut pieces 27" long and one-third the circumference wide. If the effective tube length is less than 54", I will then cut 3 more and shorten them to the effective tube length - 27". If more than 54", a 3rd set needs to be cut. Remove mirrors, spider, focuser, etc for their protection. It may be worthwhile to spray paint the inside of the tube flat black at this point to cover any minor seams that the flocking will miss. (It may already be black if you are upgrading a tube) I then put the glue on the backing for a single strip and install it in the tube starting at the front end. Lay the strip in the tube and roll it out with a piece of cardboard tubing or pvc pipe about 30" long. Once it appears well stuck, allow it to remain on the bottom of the tube while it dries. Rotate the tube 1/3 of a rotation and do the next strip. Don't worry about minor seam gaps. Once all the flocking is installed the light won't make it far enough down the tube to see it anyway. If you have a major gap, cut a piece of flocking to fill it and glue it on to cover. By doing this in thirds, gravity is always your friend, helping to hold the flocking in place while it dries. Let each section dry before moving on. Using the contact cement above I have been able to dislodge a strip and move it once when I had misplaced it. A second time can be difficult. If you find that edges stick up because you didn get glue to the edge, you have the opportunity to put a littlce contact cement there after the section dries, but before you put the next section on. Edges should be checked for adhesion at that point. The bottle with brush inside is convenient to touch up edges. |
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